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Foodआहार द्रव्य

Meat and meat soup (mamsa, mamsarasa)

मांस और मांसरस · मांसरस

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Names and synonyms

Sanskrit
मांसरसमांसयूषजाङ्गलमांसआनूपमांसमत्स्य
Hindi
मांसरसमांसमांस का शोरबामछली
English
Meat and meat soupmeatmeat soupfishmamsa rasa
Romanized
mamsamamsarasamatsya

Ayurvedic properties

Only the qualities the text states are listed. The claims below give each statement with its source.

Effect on the doshas
Pitta: aggravates

What the text says

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Properties4

  • Fish and the meat of goats, sheep and cattle are listed among the causes of pitta aggravation.

    Chapter 3 · p. 39 · v. 58Hindi commentaryTraditional description
  • A great text is quoted as saying that meat cooked with fat, milk products, sour grain gruel, sour fruits and pungents, with ghee, is strengthening, appetising and nourishing; the text itself attributes this effect to the combination.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 615Sanskrit verseTraditional description
  • Meat is said to have no taste of its own: it is not salty, since it has to be eaten combined with salt; not sour, since it digests the body's sour, that is, is opposed to sour; not pungent, bitter or astringent, being fit for special seasoning; and not sweet, since sweet is very opposed to salt, with which meat is used.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 630Hindi commentaryTraditional description
  • The great text is quoted for meat-paka: meat processed with oil, milk products, grain-sour (dhanyamla), fruit-sour and pungents, together with ghee, is strengthening, appetising and nourishing; the translation replies that other substances too gain strengthening, appetising and nourishing qualities by special processing, so it is wrong to call meat better than them.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 630Hindi commentaryTraditional description

Quantity as written1

  • Since meat lacks the marks of a medicine that bears fruit, no rule of time and measure can be made for it: had it been acceptable, the teachers would have stated its dose and the time to take it, as they did for other substances.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 631Hindi commentaryTraditional description

Cautions2

  • Plain meat, without salt, ghee, condiments and rice, is criticised: a quoted verse lists plain meat, old women, the rising sun, freshly set curd, intercourse at dawn and sleep (at dawn) as six things that take life at once.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 615Sanskrit verseTraditional description
  • The fault of meat without salt, ghee and seasoning is said to be heard in the opponents' own texts: plain (shuddha) meat, intercourse with old women, the rays of the rising sun, fresh curd, intercourse at dawn and sleep at dawn are six things that quickly destroy a person's life.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 630Hindi commentaryTraditional description

Contraindications2

  • Meat is called uneatable because it is vitiated in the bodies of meat-eating animals; so the meat, milk, dung, urine and the like of meat-eating animals are left aside, and all the texts direct that only the dung, urine and milk of grass-eating animals, counted as eight kinds, be taken in medicines.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 633Hindi commentaryTraditional description
  • Meat, the translation concludes, cannot serve as food, is not counted among the well-known medicines and cannot be an excellent rasayana; it calls meat condemnable, uneatable, useless and born of violence, a substance the omniscient, compassionate brahmarshis could not have told anyone to consume.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 637Hindi commentaryTraditional description

Historical4

  • The editor says the closing sentence of the work shows that Ugrādityācārya himself expounded its last section in the assembly of Śrī Nṛpatuṅgavallabhendra in order to prove that meat is of no use in medicine.

    Front matter · p. 37IntroductionTraditional description
  • The editor says that in the final section of the work the ācārya proved by reasoning and authority that taking condemnable things such as wine and meat, whether in the name of medicine or of food, is not proper.

    Front matter · p. 39IntroductionTraditional description
  • Seeing many meat-eaters, by the fault of the times physicians too became meat-eaters, the translation says, and out of self-interest pushed meat, which is outside the root text, into the sections on food and drink and on vegetables.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 631Hindi commentaryTraditional description
  • Meat, with honey and liquor, is said to have been mixed into this science of Ayurveda later by people greedy of the tongue.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 637Hindi commentaryTraditional description

Other7

  • The introduction says meat, like wine and honey, is used in no medicinal formula of the Kalyāṇakāraka, because obtaining it involves killing living beings and its renunciation is needed to uphold non-violence.

    Front matter · p. 18IntroductionTraditional description
  • The hitahita chapter argues that meat is not food, being very incompatible with milk, and goes on to deny that it is a medicine or a rasayana.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 614Sanskrit verseTraditional description
  • Meat is said not to be a medicine: it is not taken in the chapter on collecting medicinal substances nor among the miscellaneous medicines, which are of two kinds, pacifying and purifying; it is not purifying, lacking the power to purify upward, downward or both ways, and not pacifying, having no particular taste of its own.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 630Hindi commentaryTraditional description
  • None of the ten times for taking medicine is fixed for meat, and the sections on collecting substances, on the proper place and time for collecting them and on acquiring them do not take it up; where it is not mentioned even by name, the translation asks, how can it be a medicine?

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 631Hindi commentaryTraditional description
  • Meat is said not to be a rasayana either: it is not read in the rasayana chapter, it is opposed to milk, and the diet rule says milk, ghee and food are to be taken after the meat is digested.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 631Hindi commentaryTraditional description
  • Through many reasons and examples the account of meat is called self-contradictory, very painful, most low, disgusting, a breeding place of worms and destructive of the root text, and so it is refuted.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 633Hindi commentaryTraditional description
  • Meat and food (anna) are said to be alike bodies of living beings, yet one (food) is to be eaten and the other (meat) not, just as of sister and wife, both called woman, one is to be approached and the other not.

    Appendix: Hitahita · p. 635Hindi commentaryTraditional description

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How does the translation answer the doubt that plant medicines are also meat because they are bodies of living beings?On what grounds does the hitahita chapter say that meat is neither food, nor medicine, nor rasayana?On what grounds does the translation say that meat is not a medicine?What does the front matter say about wine, meat and honey in the Kalyāṇakāraka?Which combinations with milk does the translation say cause kushtha or quick death?Which food combinations with milk does the hitahita chapter warn against?

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What does the front matter say about wine, meat and honey in the Kalyāṇakāraka?

No formula in the work uses wine, meat or honey, because they arise from violence; and its last section, which Ugrāditya is said to have delivered at the court of Nṛpatuṅga Vallabha, sets out to prove that meat is of no use in medicine.

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On what grounds does the hitahita chapter say that meat is neither food, nor medicine, nor rasayana?

Not food: Brahma and the others did not eat it, nourishment runs from milk to food, children are first given light food with milk at six months, and meat is very incompatible with milk. Not medicine: it is absent from the lists of drugs, it neither purifies nor, having no distinct taste of its own, pacifies, and no dose and none of the ten times for medicine is given for it. Not rasayana: it is absent from the rasayana section.

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Which food combinations with milk does the hitahita chapter warn against?

Milk taken with meat, fish, jaggery, black gram or modaka sweets is said to bring on kushtha, and taken with vegetables, jambu fruit, sura or asava to kill the ignorant quickly like a snake; meat and milk together are called unworldly, unpleasant and excluded by the texts.

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Which combinations with milk does the translation say cause kushtha or quick death?

Milk taken with meat, fish, jaggery or sweets made of black gram is said to cause kushtha, and milk used with liquor made from vegetables and jambu fruit is said to kill the fool quickly.

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On what grounds does the translation say that meat is not a medicine?

It is not taken up in the sections on collecting medicinal substances, is neither purifying nor pacifying, has no taste of its own, and has no time or measure of use laid down for it.

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How does the translation answer the doubt that plant medicines are also meat because they are bodies of living beings?

Meat is the body of a living being, but a living body need not be meat, just as a neem is a tree but not every tree is a neem.

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Quick facts

Content type
Food
Categories
MeatAnimal product
Source pages with records
11
Pages naming it
71
Extraction tasks
T01, T02, T29, T30
Record id
ingredient_mamsa